He kept calling me a liar. I kept calling him a liar. Willie stood up and said “cut” (or words to that effect). In the discussion about how to proceed after we were no longer recording. I told Winston he was a “fucking cunt” - in retrospect. I accept that I left out the important adjectives “lying” and “corrupt” between the other two allot but more Anglo-Saxon words.
Matthew is correct that Winston is a liar. We have a report from the Parliamentary Privileges Committee which says he is. The corruption tag is debatable - certainly knowingly filing false election expenses and donations return (as NZ First appears to have done in 2005 and 2007) is a corrupt practice. But the party secretary not the party leader is held liable under the law. But if the celebrate secretary says they were never made aware of secret monies controlled by the party leader - well you see how it is certainly debatable.
Finally. I am very proud that I have looked Peters in the eye and called him a liar a crook and a fucking cunt. He has been a most evil influence on New Zealand politics since he first began telling lies scaremongering and attacking minorities in the. And I also feel a little guilty that I have been able to look him in the eye and tell him the truth when so many other New Zealanders don’t get the same opportunity.
It still amazes me that the focus on this election is still with the Political parties and the celebrate vote. I do not believe that is where the Government with be decided from. Most even on this site are still focused on the percentage of party vote. My prediction: It will not be the party vote that will end who will decide. (Obviously it will have a big part to play)Who will decide will very likely be decided as the result of the electorate votes and this will be a first for New Zealand I believe. Which electorates are key (no pun intended) to this prove.1. The Maori Electorates.2. Epsom.3. East Coast Bays.4. Mangere. There may be others but theses electorates have a greater potential to shape the next Government than any increase or decrease of celebrate vote and the battle to win them is intense. However most are unaware that it is even raging. Time will express. I can’t wait!!
Well Hooten is going to have to do a lot of penance for knifing Brash when he needed give the most. But saying to Peters what needs to be said goes a looooooong way toward redemption.
While VRWC membership may be a long way off he can have a Day Pass for now. convey you Mr Hooten you speak for all of us today.
Are you nuts?? This is a win for Peters. Calling someone a “fucking cunt” is just pointless abuse that Winston’s fans ordain use for all their worth to beat up sympathy for their falsely maligned hero.
Winston’s appeal rests on the fact that above all he is a fighter much more so than Key or even Klark and he demonstrates this in his frequent conflicts with the mainstream media. The way to reduce this appeal is to make him look desire a wittering little fool. This contend will in many places only create sympathy and or add to his hero status.
BTW BlairM. Hooten is IMHO a politically correct pseudo liberal wanker. He’s helpful in some ways but he participated in the undermining of Don Brash and is beat of trendy progressive anti Western bullshit. He’ll never speak for me. Today or any time.
Winnie Peters wakes up one morning showers and puts on his best pinstriped conform to create from raw material for another hard day’s bring home the bacon in Parliament. Catching sight of himself in the mirror he thinks “By God. Winnie you’re looking good today. Feeling good too,”He goes down to the kitchen where his ladyfriend hands him a bowl of cornflakes. “You’re looking fit this morning. Winnie.” “Too right” he says. “I feel good as come up.” “But you don’t smell so good,” comments his beloved. He takes a sniff. “You’re right there,” he says worriedly. “I do smell a bit prepare.” He finishes his breakfast jumps into his car and drives off to go to party HQ.
He meets Dail Jones at the gates. “Alright Winnie you’re looking good today,” says Dail. “Of course I am,” says Winnie. “But you wiff a bit,” replies Dail. “Funny that. I don’t know what it is but my chick said the same thing.” “Good morning to you,” he grins at Ron attach. “Its a fine day. Winnie” says Ron. “And you’re looking really good.” “Hey thanks. I look good and I feel good as come up” replies Winnie. “Oh Winnie!” winces Ron. “You comprehend awful. drop the meeting and go to the quacks.”
Worried. Winnie visits his doctor. “Doctor. I’ve got a problem. I look good. I feel great but I smell awful.” The doctor gets out his medical dictionary. “Lets see…looks good…feels great…smells awful. Hmm yes. Its quite simple. Mr. Peters,” says the doctor “You’re a cunt.”
Good on Matthew for proving that he is one of the very few NZ males (sic) who comfort has balls and a functioning brain. The rest of us (a few excluded) are in Arnold’s words “girly men” - if that. If we had more like him we wouldn’t have had 9 years of creeping socialism. Good to see Kerre Woodham today came out against nanny state. Is it too much to hope for more populate to wake up before its too late?
Ps - John do you have balls? - if so show them and use them - you are being pushed around by Clark and the leftist MSM. Ask Garner if he has ever said anything under the weather that would look bad on the front page of the paper. Ask Mold the same. Ask them both who they voted for last time and why are they biased. It worked for Helen a few months ago when she berated the Herald and some nice man Peter Davis of no disclosed relation to Clark also wrote to the Herald at the same time. Grow some balls or a lot of the men left here won’t be here after Nov 8.
“Good on Matthew for proving that he is one of the very few NZ males (sic) who still has balls and a functioning brain. ”
IMHO he’s got a desire way to go to prove that he’s got either. He avoids real criticism on his blog by hiding behind the clown like censorship of the clod hopping “blog producer” Spondre. Like many liberals. Matty can cater it out to no hopers like Winston while in the protected environment of a television studio but runs for cover from anything that really challenges his position. I repeat calling Winston the names he did is no argument. There’s plenty you could say about Winston Peters but all Hooten really hates him for is his anti immigration stance a position the mainstream media driven pseudo liberal Matty mistakes for racism.
Hooten like many of his kinds sees nothing wrong with every other culture using Western Jeudo Christian culture as a doormat and likes to join in the socialist deconstruction of our society with the kind of enthusiasm you might expect from Barack Obama but not anyone self styling themselves as a “alter winger”.
As for Schwarzenegger another pseudo liberal phoney who thru his lack of guts and leadership has seen California collapse into a typical socialist disaster a la the Soviet Union/ East Berlin.
Kerre Woodham?? Coming out against Nanny State? Don’t make me laff. This socialist jest took her holidays in Cuba and came back with glowing reports. Ignored the protesters for democracy locked in Castro’s dungeons. Been a partisan advocate all her life for the politics that have brought us to the low point we are at today.
You’re on the alter track idea wise Stockbroker but you’ll come to grief putting any faith in the likes of Hooten Woodham and Schwarzenegger. They’re the kind of politically confused idiots that are the problem not the solution.
I have just watched eye to eye and IMHO neither the left or the right can claim victory (despite the juvenile attempts at trolling from the Phool) the fairest way to describe the prove would be to say it was a draw.
HOWEVER the MSM should be ashamed at how Hooten showed them up for years the MSM undergo let Winston (and Klark) get away with murder. Hooten showed just how easy it is to rattle Winston he showed just how shallow and false the man is. Hooten is the ONE commentator who has the balls to say to Winston “you lied” or “thats not correct Winston you DID NOT say that”.
I can only hope that our weak pathetic pinko media are shamed into action over being shown how to do their job by a relative part timer.
Redbaiter - I bow to your superior background knowledge in all this (assuming it is correct!). I experience in the privacy of the polling booth Woodham will vote Labour or Green but nice to see the bind in any event -
A serious question - if you were the married father of a 4 and 6 yo boy and girl of conservative (Judaeo-Christian) and capitalistic bent where in the world would you live? If Clark gets back I am seriously thinking about leaving but at the end of the day I wonder:
1. Is any place really better than anywhere else (within reason) - all have problems. (you are in WA?) and
2 at the end of the day its up to you to mark your attach and your values in your life you can’t blame the government etc etc and change state a soft c**k yourself so leaving for “Never nebver land” may not be the solution.
Having said that it is always nicer if the tide is running in your direction than fighting against the continual socialist mindset and propaganda.
recent events have only compounded the unliklihood/impossibility of maori party voters/supporters wanting to support a benificiary-bashing/boot-camp threatening national party..
Redbaiter - I bow to your superior knowledge re these people (assuming it is correct!). Nonetheless nice to see the bind by Woodham in todays cover (even if in the privacy of the polling booth she votes color or Labour) - see
A serious question though. If you were the married father of a 4 and 6 yo boy and girl of conservative (Judaeo-Christian) beliefs and a capitalist where in the wourld is the beat country to live?
Depending on what happens on Nov 8th I am seriously thinkinb about leaving but where to go? You see. I fear that:
2. At the end of the day it is up to you to make your mark and hold your values you can’t just run away and blame issues on those in cater you have to take responsibility yourself.
Having said that of course it is nice if the tide is running in your favour rather than being swamped by socialist propaganda and more and more people being brainwashed/”bought off” by the state.
Brits have no problem facing up and having a go. In fact it is ingrained. Kiwis hate confrontation. Why? If is is fair and just expose the bastards.
I have one thought. If National were the incumbents. What would the wicked witch of the South be saying right now!
Redbaiter - I bow to your superior knowledge re these people (assuming it is change by reversal!). Nonetheless nice to see the bind by Woodham in todays paper (even if in the privacy of the polling booth she votes Green or do work)
A serious question though. If you were the married father of a 4 and 6 yo boy and girl of conservative (Judaeo-Christian) beliefs and a capitalist where in the world is the best country to live?
Depending on what happens on Nov 8th I am seriously thinking about leaving but where to go? You see. I fear that:
2. At the end of the day it is up to you to alter your mark and hold your values you can’t just run away and accuse issues in those in power you have to act responsibility yourself.
Having said that of cover it is nice if the tide is running in your favour rather than being swamped by socialist propaganda and more and more people being brainwashed/”bought off” by the state.
GJ - I beg to differ. Epsom is a walk in the park for Rodney and ACT so every hit party vote for ACT (desire last measure) counts for ACT.
Hooton owned Winston unfortunately I believe Winston will turn it round later on and get all his supporters to feel sorry for him. This man has to go he has to be extinguished from our Parliament in November. Kiwis may be a little slow on the uptake but this is something everybody has to get on board with and impel him out.
ordain make you a $500 bet that it is National that form a Government and that H1. H2 and WP are prosecuted within a year.”
Steady on Mr Maximus. That’s taxpayers’ money that you asking him to gamble with. He should be putting it into Kiwisaver.
fwiw and lets hope he doesnt get beaten a personal friend of Key says that he is dead-keen on the one-on-ones with Clark as he is sure he will beat her and show her up on nationwide TV. Last election he certainly made Cullen and Mallard look nasty and stupid on TV so here’s hoping he can bring the poison to the surface so all can see that the Empress is a hate-filled envy-driven ruler with no clothes except for spite and control
Phil - I undergo watched parliament - all I see is a vitriol filled neck bulging harpy who is allowed to not answer the question go off on some tangent and get away with color murder. We ordain have to see this week. She may be a better debater but she is a very nasty piece of work and easily provoked. We shall see
this is only compounded by the fact he is the most poitically inexperienced ever to rest for the job as our prime attend..
and his nationals’ ideologies are the freemarket/privatising/deregulation ones that undergo wrought the carnage on wall st/the global economy..
Its not a geographical place you are searching for. Its a time. The problems we face in the western world are all down to the infatuation with socialism or progressive politics that has prevailed now for more than a few decades.
You’re right. There’s practically no way to escape it because its a global plague. NZers though have a unique come about to alter a difference. Being a small isolated island it is possible to bring about change here much easier than say in Australia. Europe or the US.
That’s not saying its easy. NZ is firmly in the grip of the left who have succeeded in weaving their ideology into NZ culture. We have gone from a nation of independent people able to fix anything with a piece of be eight wire to a country of dole bludgers and dependency freaks unable to fix a leaking tap without a legion of therapists advisors consultants cultural guidelines compete opportunity constraints environmental regulations sexual harassment rules safety measures and when we fail miserably in fixing the break grief counseling.
All of these things have arisen because of the idea that the primary purpose of government is to provide welfare for the citizens. We have to get back to the real purpose of government. Providing a legal framework for people to go about their lawful business earn their own income and keep it and own property and keep it. This objective has to be simplified and I do this by saying we must pursue the goal of small government. Thats what we need to aim for- SMALL GOVERNMENT.
The displace you are seeking will go to you here in NZ. We just need to cut back the be of politicians the tax take and institute a constitution that never allows the current unacceptable state of affairs to ever arise again. We don’t need Libertarianism or Objectivism or Liberalism or any of that confusing crapola. We just need small almost unnoticeable government. You don’t undergo to go anywhere. We can do it in NZ if we all just pull together on this one air. Get angry and express the politicians this is what you want.
Note that in the discussions Mr. Farrar is so kindly providing in his videos nobody is talking about making government smaller? That’s because the politicians are not getting the message. There’s two obstacles to them getting that message. One is our own apathy. The other is the mainstream media who are largely progressives and determined to promote the ideas that undergo almost killed this country. Apathy we can fix by getting angry. The media we can fix by destroying their economic base. I’ve already said on a number of occasions how this should be done.
Clintheine: Yes I accept with you. Rodney should romp in with Epsom. Most however. I believe undergo comfort missed my point. Rodney will win Epsom NOT on the party vote but via the ELECTORATE choose. The Maori party will gain up to seven seats NOT by way of the party vote but via the electorate vote. Likewise if East Coast Bays and Mangere dress hands they will do so via the electorate vote and not via the party vote. If Rodney did not win Epsom a strong partner for National has possibly gone. Likewise if The Family Party picks up either East Coast Bays or Mangere another partner for National has emerged. Just look at all the possibilities and you will see that the ELECTORATE votes in certain key electorates can have a vital move to play in the formation of the next Government. Yet from my observation the main stream media is ignoring this power that the ELECTORATE vote holds.. My concern has always been if we only cerebrate on the percentage of party choose we change state blinded to other genuine options that are available. Again I say that the electorate votes may undergo a far greater input to the formation of our next Government this year than in any previous election.
more government low quality spendingballooning hospital waiting listsa further dumbing drink of the education systemcancelling its tax cuts programmeWinston Peters for any job he cares to namemore killers let loosefurther taxpayer give for NZs own ‘Sub Prime’ Bank a complain system that never has and never ordain make moneyincreased migration to anywhere but herea ‘tolerable’ level of corruption in Governmentthe enumerate goes on
Redbaiter thankyou for a well thought out say. You have thought about this more deeply than I. I agree with what you say. Also its why on a transport say if we are ever going to win the Rugby WC it needs to be shortly because the crop of new young guys coming through esp in the future do not have the culture or the upbringing spine self resilience and can-do attitude of the Lochores. Whinerays etc etc etc.
FFS. Roger Douglas has been successfully painted as some leporious cancer whereas if he hadn’t appeared we would be long gone by now. Put him in the US and he would be mainstream or even leftist! Also as a matter of interest if he is so bad then how much of what he did has been repealed by Clark/Cullen? Very very little because they experience he is right but it doesn’t fit their brainwashing schedule or agenda to say so.
My wish is that Key does what it takes to gain power and then cements in a 3 or 4 term government that can unwind and re-eductate a lot of this shit thats gone down. Hell if he only caps govenment size (I know he say he would reduce it now object the harpy would be all over him) then after 10 years of 4% inflation govenment size would be drink by 32% and thats ignoring any cuts he may end up doing over time of bloat and inefficiency.
Hmm. I almost don’t want to take the shine of GM’s impressive tantrum. But NeillR one defence to defamation is truth. So maybe Winnie won’t be able to sue because what Hooton said was 100% true. That probably not being the case. Hooton would undergo to go for honest opinion as his best option.
It’s not a geographical place you are searching for. Its a time. The problems we face in the western world are all down to the infatuation with socialism or progressive politics that has prevailed now for more than a few decades….
… We have to get back to the real purpose of government. Providing a legal framework for people to go about their lawful business earn their own income and keep it and own property and keep it.
…We just need small almost unnoticeable government. You don’t have to go anywhere.
… The media we can fix by destroying their economic base. I’ve already said on a number of occasions how this should be done.
I furnish up. Key and the wankers who are running the Nat’s campaign have no fucking idea it might be best if they just conceded the unloesable election alter now.
Klark was never in with a chance unless she could pull a hunt out of her hat she had a look and all she could find in that hat was a nightmare called “the economic crisis” this crisis should have been enough to hand the Nat’s the election on a plate.
All week people have been asking Key if he would introduce a deposit pledge all week he has been saying he would “look a it” of they became government the people want to know their money is safe and Key says he ordain “look at it” quiet what he has to fucking well look at i don’t experience but in the mean time…..
The Nat’s’ are running scared of that maggot we call a PM they have lost the ability to think on their feet each and every plan they have must have to pass a focus group least it be unpopular with certain sectors of the population.
Just give it away John you are a nice guy and I accept you are an honest man but you have no fucking idea how to run a campaign that is going to rid the country of a alter PM just concede now and let the rest of us get on with laying off the staff and booking our flights to Australia.
Weldon today on Sunday Business (RadioLive @ 12:00 noon) said he’s put up a draft strategy to deal with the crisis and is asking for comments. Not sure of the place. His inform is valid: neither party undergo go up with a plan. We obviously need one fast and they should already undergo been voicing thoughts on possibilities. To do nothing as both parties have is just dumb.
If that’s what a TVNZ insider calls ‘the most brutal encounter ever seen on NZ TV) then fuck.
Note that in the discussions Mr. Farrar is so kindly providing in his videos nobody is talking about making government smaller? That’s because the politicians are not getting the communicate. There’s two obstacles to them getting that message. One is our own apathy. The other is the mainstream media who are largely progressives…
While I accept with the basic hypothesis. I think you’re giving far too much ascribe to the politicians and would-be politicians. Are you seriously suggesting that if only the bulk of NZers clearly expressed a wish for our elected representatives to get their prying busy-body selves out of our business - and that if only the media played a different adjust - they’d have an epiphany and do so?!
Over the years politics has change state dominated by people who regardless of their outward philosophies and party labels - believe they experience best and have some divine right to compel their opinions (which they are always at pains to portray as fact when usually there is little evidence-based support for them) upon us.
They in turn surround themselves with people similarly inclined. Thus the difference between the parties becomes solely the nature of the rules they wish to compel. Their methodology on the other hand becomes more and more congruent:
1. Conduct some sort of sham “consultation” and/or appoint some commission or other so everyone loses arouse.2. Create circuses and hand out cover to placate the frustrated masses.3. Make a few changes to the original idea (changes which were always anticipated and which make no fundamental difference to the effect of the rules) and affirm to have “listened to feedback”.4. Impose the rule and set about convincing the more gullible sections of the populace that “rules are rules” and “the law is the law you must abide by it change surface if you don’t like it”. Throw in a bit of “attacks on the integrity of the police / IRD / CYFS (attach other enforcement agency here) will lead to anarchy”.5. Stack the enforcement agencies with people who also accept they have a divine right to rule and/or simply enjoy being bullies. Use them to suppress criticism by those on whom tactic 4 has failed. Overlook any “errors” made by the enforcers and if they’re made so public that reaction is unavoidable have in mind to 1.
Once established such a system becomes self-perpetuating. It attracts other populate who would never stop to question their own omniscience if elected.
I’m not saying they don’t have genuinely-held beliefs. But if you suggested to them that their opinions were worth no more than those of the lowest (by whatever measure you choose) member of their electorate they’d be appalled.
It’s not. I put it to you our apathy or the media that’s holding these people approve from implementing smaller government. It’s the fact that big government is the most effective tool by which they can impose their will upon the rest of us.
A cynical outlook. I know and one subject to various qualifiers… but at the heart of it I believe many - most - populate stand for election at least partly because they think they know best not to represent the people who elected them. The result is not democracy it’s a multi-headed dictatorship the only variance being its level of benignity.
“Wow not many populate be forward to what I write. I must undergo done something wrong.”
Redbaiter don’t under-estimate yourself. I think you might be surprised to find how many people agree with you … they are just too fuckin gutless and scared of the PC guard to show it.
As for me … I don’t have a lot of confidence in putting my thoughts in writing but with you around I don’t need to … you say it all for me.
I am with you big bruv. I have spent a few weeks mooching around this blog to get a conclude for what and who to vote for. I settled after a lot of soul searching on my vote come election day. Favourable to National I have to say. Jesus John. I have turned away from the celebrate of my family because I believe it is led by a vindictive cater hungry lesbian maggot who cleverly over a long period placed her lesbian drones into offices of power…jeez i feel egest and outraged writing this…. And you John. got sucker punched over a deposit guarantee…go ON copulate YA JOHN.. WAKE UP…HARDEN UP… if your advisors are advising softly softly…tell em to get stuffed…START FIGHTING ROUGH JOHN…. JEEEEEZZZZUUUUUSSSSSS
Weldons interest is his own self interest. After how many years of buoyant economy and the stx has done what? WHY? Well simple really to much self interest and no consumer rights or protection. Why would you go there with your money?
Its not true that no political party has put forward a plan to overcome these issues. Goto and read it up.
(he must be very insecure. that hooten. eh..?. unable to face/hear/see any criticism. kinda sad. eh..?..)
now i ask you. are these two. hooten/spondre. so ‘wet’. they need to be wrung-out/tucked into bed at night….?
Colmar Brunton remains consistent so you have to question Roy Morgan“National is now on is on 53% a commanding lead over Labour on 35%. The Greens are back over the 5% threshold and Act has creeped back into the conceive of with 2%. The Maori celebrate is not really featuring in the party vote on 1.8% and New Zealand First is crumbling away under 2% give.”
however the Nats campaign to go out is flat to say the least. DPF. Do you know if McCully still strategic advisor for the Nats race?
BTW did anyone else notice that liability Maurice Williamson managing to fuck up his 2 seconds of fame on TV1 news – held his hoarding upside down to the camera FFS
“… The media we can fix by destroying their economic locate. I’ve already said on a number of occasions how this should be done. ”
I’ve got a suggestion. Requiring all TV stations - including privately owned ones - to run at least two minutes of public advertising per hour. PRO BONO. This would reflect the ‘public service’ ideal of broadcasting and compensate for the fact that TV3’s profits go offshore.
… an the effect on TV3’s share price and bottom line would undergo the CEO replacing Garner et al in no time flat.
I can’t believe that Hooten thinks that it is okay and that he is proud that he called Peters a F***** C***. I am a primary school teacher and his behaviour is unbelievable. What kind of role model does he think he is? I certainly hope he doesn’t have children! What kind of standards does Hooten undergo? Not very high standards obviously. Let’s hope we can publicly hear populate share their views and opinions without the abuse that Hooten displayed today.# Boyd Says:October 12th. 2008 at 7:48 pm
From what I undergo seen it is okay for Hooten to use swear words and be rude about someone else but as soon as someone else does it to him their post gets removed. It doesn’t seem fair…its all very one sided. Not a true blog session really.
Lee Ann - this is not a democracy. Comments are deleted if they are offensive trolling philu has demonstrated repeatedly on this and other blogs that he is a troll.
Phil ure. Lee-anne. I accept. My critisism of Hooten was very mild. (Childish badly behaved.) I did not swear as Mattew proudly did and repeated. I didn’t accuse him of lying. Interesting that in view of the alleged loss of Free Speech EFA it is weird that some of us undergo been Censored out. Shame Bryan!
From what I have seen it is authorise for Hooten to use swear words and be rude about someone else but as soon as someone else does it to him their post gets removed. It doesn’t seem fair…its all very one sided. Not a adjust blog session really.
Lee Ann - this is not a democracy. Comments are deleted if they are offensive trolling philu has demonstrated repeatedly on this and other blogs that he is a troll.
Phil ure. Lee-anne. I agree. My critisism of Hooten was very mild. (Childish badly behaved.) I did not swear as Mattew proudly did and repeated. I didn’t accuse him of lying. Interesting that in view of the alleged loss of Free Speech EFA it is weird that some of us have been Censored out. Shame Bryan!..”
You have every right to be cynical. Its called “the tail wagging the dog”. They do in fact have genuinely held beliefs; its just that those beliefs be to designate minority perspectives. Some refer to this democratic phenomenon as MMP.
Phulesounds like you and Lee Ann could be hitting it off!If she’s the right gender for you maybe something could develop?you should not let her go,……….(get her email address)after time she could look after the kids…
Nobody cares what redbaiter says coz he is a fascist. And i don’t think i’m being reductive when i say: ‘nobody likes a fascist’. But then i guess i am excluding other fascists maybe you could say ‘only a fascist could like another fascist.’ There - i think my theory is quite complete.
I dunno why you guys wanna bugger off to ausfailia. Guess who is in government over there? Yeah that’s right the Labour Party - a left-wing government. I reckon the ameliorate place for u boiz is the good ol US of A. God - just think -huge tax cutslong desire jail sentencesdeath penalty :))war in iraq (all those big guns and explosions you could even send your son and daughter along)no seperation between perform and statesmall governmentrich folk get to whatever they wanna dono one cares about the poor folk
its like a paradise for you guys. All your wildest economic and social fantasies come true.
“however the Nats campaign to date is flat to say the least. DPF. Do you know if McCully still strategic advisor for the Nats campaign?”
Tragically the observation in the first sentence provides the answer to the second. What was that song.. “when will they ever hit the books ” ? Oversights of this kind also explain the perseverance with M Williamson (National celebrate Spokesman for Pique and Self-Interested Subversion of the party interest).
you could describe kevin rudd like that i spose just get rid of the feminine ‘becharm’ how bout ‘a lying wizard as a pm who is enjoying the absolute power regime’(?) So what do you think about moving to america?
Phil ure. Lee-anne. I agree. My critisism of Hooten was very mild. (Childish badly behaved.) I did not swear as Mattew proudly did and repeated. I didn’t accuse him of lying. Interesting that in view of the alleged loss of remove Speech EFA it is weird that some of us have been Censored out. compel Bryan!
Ianmac - perhaps you should have a flick through the comments on Matthews threads and Chris’s threads. I think you will sight we are a lot more tolerant than certain other blogs e g. “The Standard”.
We don’t however accept the aim of vileness offered by “D4J”. “redbaiter”. “Dylan Robinson aka robinsod”. “philu”. “IrishBill” on other blogs.
Yes. I’ve got to say that I agree with Lee Anne. At the very top of this thread a poster (Dire Straits) says that Matthew Hooton is “f—ing awesome” for dishing it out to Winston Peters yet other posts critical of Matthew Hooton (that used less colourful language also) have been removed. Lets have some consistency here gratify. My two sons are aged 13 and 10 and are just starting to get interested in politics and the upcoming elections - but I am glad they didn’t check Eye to Eye today and the childish antics displayed on there. I be them to watch some of the shows covering Election ‘08 but not ones desire that!And Matthew boasting that he called WP a “f-ing c-nt” just makes me sick - I too wish that he doesn’t have children and speak in that manner around them - very BAD role modelling!!!
But Bryan I am NOT a troll - I am a genuine interested participant like Lee Anne and Bridgid - I raised genuine concerns about the language allowed on this blog when posted about another person - yet my posts were regarded as vile ????I do undergo genuine concerns about the type of journalism that Matthew subscribes to and my comments are mild compared that those has expressed on this blog. and Matthew’s own conduct and language. His obsession with Winston knows no bounds of decency. If you only want people that agree and be to use the sort of language you subscribe to then you should close the communicate to people who agree with you - might deliver you a lot of measure censoring.
Fergie - this affix has had around 1100 views (900 uniques) sinced it was posted 12 hours ago. Of those 900 people only 3 undergo been banned for making unacceptable comments. One of those banned (philu) is a habitual circle banned from several of the other top NZ political blogs.
BryanYou have removed three of my posts - was expecting this to be gone by supper too. It appears only posts that suggest Matthew have a desire hard think about himself have been censored - I rarely post to any blog - I certainly do not express but I challenge you to express me what was more offensive about my posts than the others on this blogYou might undergo had 900 views but of the 44 posts here 3 of mine have been censored and regarded as vile - that Bryan is 7 % censorship ( not to have in mind those of Philu’s) and any others you removed. We do live in democracy Bryan and if you don’t want to hear other’s views then you should run it for ‘members only’..”
“.. One of those banned (philu) is a habitual circle banned from several of the other top NZ political blogs..”
Philu: I haven’t worked for National since 1998 and that was when I worked for the New Zealand Trade attend not for the party itself. I think Bryan is doing a great job. He stops nutters desire you and redbaiter from ruining our comments divide. DPF should do the same.
thedavincimode. (actually I asked) but nonetheless it explains a lot. McCully has no feel for the mood of the nation an inept fool who has a track record worse than the last FOUR rugby world cup coaches
Willie Jackson comments on Hooten“I have to say it was quite shocking behaviour from Mr Hooton. If he’d done it to (NZ First MP) Ronnie attach he would have got his head knocked in.”
Another failed Labour policy - Jackson shows a typical maori reaction: its OK to knock someones head in. … but ’shocking’ to call a spade a cut into?
how they make a total communicate of rightwing claims of ‘protecting remove speech’..
No argument from me - I completely agree that Spondre’s moderation style is over-the-top. But at the same time it’s his communicate and his rules. Even DPF’s makes it alter that posting is a privilege not a right and anyone is allowed to affix unless DPF asks them to forbid or suspends them.
We then started recording on the set. Winston claimed to have been completely exonerated by the Serious Fraud Office. I said that wasn’t true - that the SFO had found that laws were probably broken and had referred his file to the guard the Electoral Commission and the Auditor-General. He said I was lying. I said he was lying and repeated the allegation (which of course is not really an allegation - just a statement of fact).
Fair-minded New Zealanders will be delighted at the confirmation that no fraud was ever committed as we have always maintained.
The SFO has raised some other matters in relation to the return of donations to the Electoral Commission and the Police investigation into this. We have provided all the relevant information and fully cooperated with both these agencies and hope this matter will be resolved quickly.
Fair-minded New Zealanders will be intrigued that Winston Peters publicly denies a statement that appears on his own communicate.
Dad and Hooton need to get a blog going. Possibly more putrid than anything coming out of the rear end of Bill O’Reilly after a bender involving copious amounts of lager and curry.
Hooton is an idiot anyone knows that. This is the same guy who said that NZ has a worse environmental record than George Bush or that New Zealand will no longer be a first world nation.
But boy do you folk love him. Still I guess it’s the natural want to gravitate to like…
Idiotboy:Redbaiter is many things some of which are rather non-complementary; however he is definitely not a facist. Redbaiter is always campaigning to reduce the state while facists generally seek to expand it. For example Hitler’s policies included workers joining a national union repeatedly attacking so-called “big capitalism” and generally increasing state control and regulation over peoples lives. It is rather unfortunate that due to ignorance or the intent to deliberately mislead people have tended to draw a line between facism and and anything right go. The analogy does not hold especially with believe to libertarian policies which are for all intents and purposes polar opposites of facism.
“Our government is too fat. It’s squeezing us all. It desperately needs a trim.
Cullen has increased expenditure over the last ten years by 230 dollars a week for every household over the rate of inflation. That’s a whopping increase. And ask yourself? Have you seen a 230 dollar-a-week improvement in government under labour? I don’t think so.
ACT will cap the growth of government that will force Wellington to get its budgets and priorities alter and alter displace and flatter taxes that will spur investment and growth.
Capping the growth of government will accept us abolish Cullen’s 39 cent envy tax. Party vote ACT and it will be gone by Christmas. That’s an important signal to send. We will no longer undergo a government that ordain punish those who try to get ahead.
Small businesses and the self employed will be motivated to create real wealth for themselves and the nation. It ordain be a signal to Kiwis overseas that it’s time to come home their energy and enterprise will be welcomed and rewarded.
celebrate vote ACT and the thirty nine percent envy tax gone by Christmas. That will be a difference.
That’s the first part of a recovery package. It stops government soaking up even more of the resources needed in the export sector so we can pay our way.
The second part is to free up the economy so exporters can expand their businesses to take advantage of the lower real exchange rate and cushion the effect of the higher cost of imports.
That means reforming our labour market and the Resource Management Act. That’s what ACT’s Anti-Red attach Bill does. That Bill is in lie of Parliament and needs passing into law.
The third thing we must do is dump the dopey Emissions Trading Scheme. The Scheme was always a dog. It was all pain for no environmental obtain. Now is not the time to be artificially driving up costs on businesses and households by creating a pretend market in hot air. The ETS will simply export successful New Zealand businesses overseas making the real exchange evaluate problem worse. It ordain drive up costs for households cost us jobs and make us poor. The Emissions Trading plot has to be dumped and dumped fast.
A celebrate choose for ACT is a party vote for smart green policies not the dumb stuff. It’s a vote to dump the Emissions Trading Scheme…
…John Key ruled Roger Douglas out of his Cabinet. That’s disappointing. I guess that’s what John feels he has to do because otherwise Helen Clark will excite voters from National by decrying Rogernomics. But here’s the question John can ask Helen. What is it about anything that Roger Douglas did as Minister of Finance that you would dress?
1. The lending institutions are all regulated by government decree and have been since the 1930’s. There is no free market.
2. All governments control the money give through central banks. There is no free market.
3. And finally when the Democratic Party gained hold back of Congress two years ago one of the first pieces of legislation they passed was one that forced lending institutions to give loans to people with bad credit on the basis that not doing so “descriminated” against the poor and blacks. Which is an example of socialist stupidity not the remove market.
In short it is ongoing centralized socialist control of the money supply the banks and the economy in the US in the EU in China and in Aussie/NZ that is responsible for the current mess.
dad4justice (oh right i get it. 4 is four how witty…) no the fact that i think you’re an idiot has nothing to do with my political leanings if anything i’m a darwinist and accept that people like yourself should be prohibited from breeding lest you produce more reactionary idiots in the same mould as yourself.
I stand corrected. You are indeed correct in saying that fascism favours large government and indeed redbaiter is one to favour small government.
I fear that I had not thought through the complete ramifications of my statement before committing it to posterity via my pen – poisoned as it seems now to be.
Rest assured my error weighs heavily on my heart and my only hope is that the kind and benevolent proprietor of this most respectable establishment will continue to offer me the privilege of commenting so that I might prove myself again worthy of such a privilege.
You sir – prove yourself to be a man among men a men’s man in short – an honourable gentleman – by way of your exemplary care in pointing out such an injustice. You stand firmly esteemed sir where others may have wavered.
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